
6/26/00
Well, I guess it's about time that I finally started
some real work on the Camaro. As noted in the main page, I bought the car
in November '99. Up until the end of April '00, I was working on a kit car
I was building (web
site). My wife and I agreed, when I bought the Camaro, I would not start
work on it until the kit car was finished or sold. I sold the car in April
and May 1st, I started ordering parts for the Camaro. I had been researching
what I wanted to upgrade, even before I bought the car. With my plan I started
out.
First to order was the Baer brakes and rear suspension
parts from Steve Spohn. I ordered the Bilstein struts and shocks, Global
West Del-A-Lum front bushing and steering brace, Hotchkis steering couplings
and Moog steering components and ball joints. Also in the mix was a B&M
Mega Shifter, BMR three point strut tower brace and GM aluminum driveshaft.
As I waited for these items to arrive, I took note of what other misc. items
I would need. Soon parts began arriving and were piling up in my garage.
The brakes came in at the end of May. The rear suspension parts were due
about the same time.
Well, this is when things started getting weird.
My items were shipped on May 26. I should of had them June 5th. Nothing
showed. I called UPS on the 6th to see what happened as I was tracking it
on their web site. It showed that it left PA and arrived in IL on the 30th.
From there it never moved. After a lengthy talk with UPS, they said the
shipper would have to start a trace. After contacting Steve, the trace was
on. They had until the 16th or they would right off the items. On the afternoon
of the 15th, a box showed up at Steve's office. It was my parts. Apparently
the box was damaged and UPS could not read my address. The next morning
UPS Faxed Steve, telling him they could not find the package and would right
it off. These are the same people who dropped it off the night before. Steve
inspected everything and reshipped them out the following week. I received
my parts almost a month after they were shipped. Gotta love UPS...NOT!
During this time of waiting for UPS, I decided
to check out a romor that I had heard about. Apparently the Baer brakes
space the wheel mounting surface out an extra .5" wider then stock.
I started thinking of what problems was I going to have with wheel offsets.
I pulled off one of the front wheels and started to do some measurements.
Sure enough, the mounting surface is out by a half of inch. Now the search
was on to find wheels. I had started looking at what I wanted back in May.
I had to put on 17" wheels to clear the brakes and I wanted to go to
a 275/40-17" tire all around. Many magazines and people have done this
combo so I knew it would fit...on a stock car. But what about the extra
width of the brakes. All the wheel companies had correct offsets for a stock
setup but no one has been able to tell me if any of these wheels would work
fine with these brakes. I had decided on what wheels I wanted and was ready
to order them until I did the measuring of the brakes. Back to the drawing
board. I know I can have custom made wheels built in the offsets I want
but it does raise the price up and everyone was talking 6-8 weeks build
time. No one has been able to confirm what sizing and offsets to use. Baer
said they just did one a couple of months ago that they used "stock"
type offsets. I have gotten many conflicting reports as to what works and
what won't. Since once you custom order wheels, you are stuck with them
if they don't work. This is a very big decision and I don't want to make
a mistake.
On the 25th, I started to disassemble the rear
suspension. I welded on the lower control arm relocation brackets and installed
the lower control arms (LCA). I also found that I am going to need to replace
the rear calipers. During the next week I will finish installing the panhard
bar, torque arm and shocks. Maybe even get the driveshaft in. You may have
noticed that I have not mentioned new springs. I am going to try everything
out with the current springs as I like the way they ride and I already scrape
enough things as it is. If I don't like the way it handles, then I will
replace them at that time.
I guess this is it for now. I will try to update
this every week or two. Don't forget to check out the new pictures I posted.
I will add to them as I take more. Thanks for visiting and good luck on
any of your projects.
8/30/00
Well, it's been a while since my last update. Man
has it been a wild ride. First, the car is back on the road. Woo Hoo. I
have done a lot of work since my last update. I have installed all the rear
suspension components. This includes the Spohn torque arm, LCA's, panhard
bar, LCA relocation brackets and Blistein shocks. While I was at it, I also
added an aluminum drive shaft from GM. I also finished up the front suspension.
This includes Global West "wonder bar" brace, Del-A-Lum A-arm
bushings, Moog ball joints and Bilstein struts. I still have to replace
the steering items (i.e. tie rods, center link, etc.). I got the new Baer
front brakes mounted and installed new Baer rear rotors and AC-Delco rear
calipers with Raybesto's Brute Stop pads. Topping this all off with a set
of steel braided lines. I also added a BMR 3 point strut tower brace to
help stiffen up the front end. I finally made my choice for wheels and tires
and after some test fitting here is what I went with. These consisted of
ROH Snyper wheels in 17x8" with 4.5" back spacing front and 17x9"
with 5" back spacing rear. These were fitted with Yokohama AVS Sports
in 245/45-17 front and 275/40-17 rear. I really wanted the 275's all around
but without custom offset wheels, this was not going to happen. As stated
above, the Baer brakes spaced the wheels out approx. .5" more then
stock and with the wider tire, it would hit the lower corners of the fenders.
Now the reasons I haven't update this page more
frequently. At one point I had really thought I was going to burn this car
to the ground! This has been the most frustrating car I have ever worked
on. Here are a couple of things I dealt with during this build up. My biggest
headache was with the drivers rear brake system. After I had started working
on the car, I have determined that at some point, the axle or wheel and
car parted company. You can see where the mounting for the shock has ground
on the pavement. Also on the brake caliper. The drives side axle is not
the original one as it looks very new compared to the other side. The e-brake
cable bracket on the caliper was missing and the cable was zip tied to the
panhard bar. Hummm. OK, I'll just go to the dealer and buy the parts I need.
Well guess what? The e-brake bracket is discontinued and they could not
track one down. Great! I get the number of a auto recycler that the dealer
uses when looking for parts. I call them and they finally locate the part.
I go down to pick it up and guess what? Your right. It's not the right part.
This is only on '89-'92 F-bodies and this rear caliper is from an '88. This
is after they told me it was from a '91. I contact a friend (IROCZDave)
who sells 3rd gen parts. He manages to locate what I needed. OK, I am stoked.
I start to assemble the drivers rear brake and notice the mounting cage
is not parallel to the rotor. Hummm. Looks like the mounting bracket is
twisted. Well, I shim the cage and reassemble everything and bled the brakes.
Alright! Well....I spoke to soon. As I was checking everything, it seem
liked the rear brake was dragging. After playing around for a couple of
days, my friend Chris, bought a pyrometer. We would run the car and then
check the temps. They were normal so I guess everything is working correctly.
The next PITA problem was the starter. My old one
was going out so I thought it would be a good time to replace it with a
high torque mini starter. I ended up buying a GMPP one from the dealer.
They said it should work and the instructions said for any Chevrolet small
block engine. I finally get it back up on the ramps to pull out the old
one. 1.5 hours later it finally came out! I tried everything to remove it
without having to loosen the exhaust pipe. I finally relented to this fact
and loosened it. I finally get it out. OK, the hard part is done or so I
thought. I go to mount the new one and find the cut out to clear the oil
pan rail is not far enough in. No problem, I' just trim this back. I then
remount it and find the pinion sits about a 1/4" to far in, in relation
to the flex plate. What?! Either the flex plate is bigger, the starter mounting
location is different or the starter holes are in the wrong place. I found
if I drop the starter down about 1/4" it would line up correctly. I
had to wait until Monday to buy the metal flat stock and I made a spacer
to shim it down. I did this and so far it is working great. No more hot
start problems.
Well, I could go on about other problems but I
don't want you to fall a sleep. I have only had it back on the road for
about a week and I am still braking in the brakes. I have pushed it some
and I can tell the handling and braking is awesome. Once full broken in,
I will really be able to push it. Also, I don't know if it was the new wheels
and tires or the drive shaft but I took it up to 115mph and there is NO
vibration. Before I would get a bad vibration starting around 85mph that
would not go away at any speed above that. I really makes driving the car
enjoyable. Also, since I did not change out the springs, the car does not
ride much different in terms of harshness. It feels tighter and more firm
but very comfortable. Overall it's a two thumbs up! Once on the track or
mountain roads, I will see how the overall handling is.
I know the above problems don't seem like much
and in there own right, they are not, but add all the little problems, shipping
delays, lost parts, etc. it really adds up to a lot of crap. It seems like
everything I have done has had some type of problem. Well that's it for
now. I still have more to do and I need to get some updated pics. I didn't
take as many as I would have liked but I working out problems and not thinking
about taking pictures as I went. Thanks for your time and check back soon.